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‘PROMPT and serious’ consideration should be given to splitting the Shetland Sheepdog breed.

The breed council has written to the Kennel Club to that effect, saying it is supporting a recent petition by Scandinavian breeders asking the KC to recognise the ‘American Shetland Sheepdog’ separately.

There has been concern and unrest for some time among the Sheltie fraternity about the US type infiltrating the British show scene, reaching a peak two years ago when an American-bred bitch won the CC at Southern Counties. She was the first US-bred Sheltie to win such an award.

At that time exhibitors filed a complaint with the KC about Kari Järvinen’s judging; two pages of signatures were collected and taken to the secretary’s office claiming he had not judged to the English Standard. The US type Sheltie is thought to be heavier, with a different shape of head, eye and bone density.



Petitioned

At the end of last year a group of Scandinavian breeders petitioned the KC asking it to recognise the ‘American Shetland Sheepdog’ as a separate breed, saying the US type was appearing in rings at UK shows and being bred from, leading them to fear this could lead to the original breed type’s demise.

More recently the KC contacted the breed council asking if it wanted to support the petition. And it does, secretary Lesley Goodwin told DOG WORLD.

“We’ve sent a letter to the KC confirming that and proposing that it gives prompt and serious consideration to reclassifying the US sheepdog,” she said.

The council has also offered to give a presentation to the KC to make its point and highlight the differences it believes there are between the English and American types.

“The petition was signed by devotees of the UK type of Shetland Sheepdog from all parts of the world who are very concerned by the introduction of the American type Shetland Sheepdog into the breeding programmes of some breeders in their own countries,” Mrs Goodwin said.

“On the occasions when breeders and exhibitors in countries other than the UK have brought the matter to the attention of their own kennel clubs they are advised to refer the matter to the kennel club of the country of origin.

“The breed council became involved at the request of the KC; a meeting of the council was called and, by a large majority, the clubs agreed that the council should endorse the petition.”

The matter is to be discussed by the KC’s Breed Standards and Stud Book Committee in July. However, the English Shetland Sheepdog Club has said in the past that pleas to the KC for help are ignored, adding that the ‘continuing lack of support’ from the KC in resolving poor standards of judging meant that dogs showing little resemblance to the UK type were being ‘promoted and rewarded’.

The Scandinavian petitioners say the first Shelties were exported to the US in the mid to late 1900s, with the American Shetland Sheepdog Association being formed in 1929 – 20 years after the Scottish club and 15 after the English.

Since then the breed in the US had evolved into a different type with a new Standard, it is thought, with the American type being heavier and ‘much more exaggerated’.

Enthusiasts in other countries are importing dogs from the US because they admire the type. But, the petitioners said, this has led to a ‘distressing’ situation, as those who favour the US type are influencing newer breeders and they are now in danger of dominating the breed by promoting the type.

“Work on the part of breeders who dedicated years to their breeding lines to maintain correct type is becoming redundant,” they say.

“It won’t be long before the British breeders will face a similar situation. There is a worry among established and knowledgeable breeders that this may begin the demise of yet another native British breed.”

The breed should now be divided into the Shetland Sheepdog with the UK Standard, it goes on, and the American Shetland Sheepdog; the two Standards are not dissimilar but there are marked differences. They say also that the US type has hereditary diseases, the occurrence of which is very rare in those bred to the UK Standard, such as von Willebrand’s disease and familial dermatomyositis.

The petitioners cite other breeds ‘successfully divided’ such as Cocker Spaniels and American Cockers.

Извините, переводом заниматься некогда. Можно перевести Гуглем, в принципе все понятно.

Полность поддерживаю коллег из северных стран о разделении породы!

Критерии разделения озвучьте)

Я за разделение. Но, скорее всего, это не реально.
В Европе уже много миксов с американцами, их к какой породе отнести?

Все зависит от критериев.

Из каких соображений разделять-то? Легче получить титулы? Других причин я не вижу

Да ну, это не про англичан
Я не вижу ничего необычного в том, что они переживают за внешний облик СВОЕЙ породы.

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Переживают? Пусть разводят темпераментных, энергичных собак.
С колли это уже проходили
С титулами связан спрос на щенков, это же ясно

В Англии проблема сбыта щенков не стоит в принципе. Во всяком случае, шелти не засиживаются.

В статье все написано.

Не сомневаюсь. Но продажа за рубеж за хорошие деньги всегда была и есть массовым явлением

Из Сабанеева

Я очень уважаю британских заводчиков в целом, они классные селекционеры (иногда даже слишком классные, быстро закрепляя нежелательные черты), но такие воззвания не делают им чести. это показатель бессилия

Что качается продажи щенков за хорошие деньги, то американцы своих щенков тоже не за центы продают. А в целом идея хорошая, т.к. дает возможность заводчикам определиться, какой тип они предпочитают и хотят разводить.

Я последнего кобеля в Англии купила в ноябре 2010. Это был Чемпион Англии Lythwood Sharp Shooter
За прошедшие 6 (почти) лет я предприняла еще несколько попыток купить там кобелей не ниже качеством, чем я уже привезла. Они там были и есть. Но не продавались - либо вообще, либо в Россию. За одного из кобелей было предложено 7 000 фунтов (не мной), кобеля не продали. Так что я бы поспорила на счет "продажи за хорошие деньги". Конкретно у шелтистов ничего не выпросить и суммой не заманить, только либо удачное стечение обстоятельств, либо купил щенком и повезло. А за щенков мне ни разу не назвали сумму, которая бы превышала стоимость щенка внутри страны. Так что коммерческий интерес тут точно ни при чем.